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6 THE COOPERATOR —  AUGUST 2020  COOPERATOR.COM  to have to see how the claims come across the  at the community amenity,’ it’s going to be dif-  table and determine how to resolve them.”  Wayne Dow, also a partner with JSG In-  surance, sees some uncertainty in how carri-  ers are reacting and will react to the current   situation. “In my experience, for insurance   carriers it’s always been a matter of looking at  corporations, especially in urban settings   the coverage. Look at the facts of the claim,  where property tends to be more vertical   try to make it fit the coverage, and then figure  than horizontal,  another insurance  compli-  out the response at that point. I don’t think  cation raises its head: lack of rent payments   the carriers are sitting in their offices trying to  from non-resident sources. In other words, a   figure out how to disclaim coverage. I believe  restaurant on the ground floor that normally   this pandemic has been something that obvi-  ously no one expected or accounted for. In my  month, covering a substantial portion of the   discussions with carriers, they view this as a  community’s operating budget, has slowed   new situation. And I think everyone is trying  down—or closed down entirely—as a re-  to remain calm and try and figure out what  sult of the pandemic. Many businesses carry   claims are going to look like, how they’re go-  ing to come in, and how they should be mea-  sured.”  Carrier Response  Four months into the pandemic, claims   are beginning to come in—and policyhold-  ers are beginning to see what considerations  interruption coverage. It’s in there, it’s on the   insurance companies are taking with respect  policy. Only problem is getting to it. All that’s   to existing policies and COVID-19. “We’re  needed is the proper key to unlock the poli-  expecting an influx of claims,” says Flem-  ing, “but truthfully, what I’ve been saying for  event is a cause of loss. Without that cause of   the last few months is that right now we are  loss, we struggle to get access to that coverage.   ‘pregnant’ with claims, but in a symbolic nine  I actually read an article yesterday morning   months we’re actually going to give birth to  about how lawsuits from insureds versus in-  those claims. To date, we haven’t seen CO-  VID-related claims come through in bulk.  they’re trying to trigger that business income   What we’re seeing more of right now is on the  coverage. Businesses are saying they have the   commercial side of  things—business inter-  ruption and workers comp–type claims.”  According to Fleming, “We are expecting  existence of COVID, the state not allowing   to see claims that struggle to prove causation,  them to open—all of these situations. They’re   that basically maintain that they believe the  saying these events should have triggered the   insured contracted the virus at a community  business income coverage; the carriers are   location, in one of the amenities. We believe  saying, ‘no, we don’t see the trigger.’”  carriers are going to have a very direct re-  sponse to those claims.”  For his part, Dow stresses that “as phased  tance on the part of insurance carriers to all   reopening continues, you may start to see  kinds of insurance claims for the foreseeable   those  claims  develop,  but  I  think  it’s  going  future.   to be one of those issues where we may see   a ‘shotgun’ approach. Carriers are going to be  minium associations are at risk of getting   seeing all kinds of stuff—from discrimina-  tion claims to harassment in the actual cases  morass. Whether an insurance claim results   themselves. And it’s at that point when I think  from an individual claiming to have con-  insurers are going to sit back and look at these  tracted the virus through some perceived   claims. I’m sure they’ve looked at their cov-  erage forms and tried to figure out exactly  corporation, or as a result of civil action that   how best to respond, but there’s going to be a  closed down a business whose monthly rent   measured response by all carriers on all lines  represents  an  important  component  in  the   of coverage affected by this. I think because  community’s financial and operational plans,   of the fact that things aren’t completely open  it’s ultimately the shareholders or unit owners   in some locations, and the possible ramifica-  tions of events in those that have opened, we  ficult situation may be made even worse by   haven’t yet seen exactly what we’re going to be  competing self-interests.    looking at in terms of claims.”  Fleming adds that “there’s already some   pretty  specific  verbiage in most general  li-  ability policies talking about virus, bacterial   pathogen, and biohazard exposure, and the   exclusion of defense. So in the absence of that,   there are some other caveats that carriers are   going to that indicate that they are really go-  ing to dig in their heels. At the end of the day,   if somebody says, ‘hey, I contracted the virus   ficult for them to prove that that actually oc-  curred, unless they lived in a bubble with no   one else and went only to that amenity.”  Non-Health-Related Claims  For some condo associations  and co-op   pays  the association or  co-op $40,000  per   what’s called business interruption insurance   to  cover  their  rent  in  this  possibility.  Many   landlords also carry rent interruption insur-  ance. But what if the insurer won’t pay?  Fleming says that right now, it’s a difficult   gray area. “It all depends on triggers. This is   cy benefits. The insured must show that the   surance carriers are in the hundreds, because   coverage. They’re claiming all sorts of trig-  gers, whether it’s civil authority, or just the   Both Dow and Fleming say they expect to   see a growing—and consistent—level of resis-  Clearly, co-op corporations and condo-  caught in the middle of this potential legal   negligence on the part of the association or   left holding the bag. An already tense and dif-  n  A J Sidransky is a staff writer/reporter for   The Cooperator, and a published novelist.   INSURANCE...  continued from page 1  on the ins and outs, the do’s and don’ts  first meeting, the new member will re-  of the building? Turns out, just as indi-  vidual properties have their own cultures  supporting documents, and the financial   and challenges, they also have their own  statements. These should be reviewed be-  processes for orienting new board mem-  bers—though of course, there is also a  formed questions and contribute ideas or   lot of overlap, even across regions.   The   Cooperator   spoke with several multifam-  ily management and administrative pros  ality is an important issue that needs to be   across the country to find out how their  understood by new members. “They need   communities make sure new board mem-  bers hit the ground running.   Management Training  Michael Pesce is the president of As-  socia,  a  large  real  estate  management  come before the board. Documents or   firm based in New Jersey that handles  other information don’t get shared with   properties up and down the East Coast.  a neighbor or any others outside of the   “I do the training for our newly elected  board.”   boards personally, with the assistance of   our community managers,” he says. “I use   a template outline that’s then customized  withal or resources to provide a profes-  for each of our managed communities.”  sional level of training to new board   The template includes sections on fidu-  ciary obligations, legal  governing docu-  ments, board responsibilities, insurance,  board members to provide a more per-  and transitions. “The goal is to do more  sonalized level of orientation to new ones.   than just a typical review of responsibili-  ties—it’s to provide   a roadmap for new   board members to   know where their   power comes from,   and what constrains   it.”    Daniel Wollman,   CEO  of  Gumley  Haft, a management   firm based in New   York  City,  has over-  seen the induction of   new board members   hundreds of times on   hundreds of boards   in his 30 years of   managing coopera-  tives and condominiums. He also makes  specifics and makes use of outside re-  himself available to new board members.  sources to give them a more general un-  “A new board member needs some orien-  tation,” says Wollman. “They can call me,   or meet with me, and I explain the issues  with whoever is joining the board to talk   of the building—what’s currently going  about our ongoing projects, the roles   on, the nuances of different matters, proj-  ects, staff issues. It gives them insight to  participate,” says Anne. “We do also re-  beginning their service.” However, along  quire that new board members attend the   with the guidance, Wollman has some  CNYC”—Council of New York Coopera-  words of caution for new board mem-  bers as well: “Don’t come with a personal  new board members, which is held at least   agenda. Come with a view that you are  annually—and which may be easier \\\[to at-  contributing to benefit the whole build-  ing.”  Wollman also advises new board  new member to thinking about the finan-  members that “the best thing a new mem-  ber can do, just like in any new job, is  board members are encouraged to speak   to observe. New members need to learn  with current and former board members   their board’s procedures,  ongoing  proj-  ects, and priorities. To do that, the new   board member should read and be fa-  miliar  with  the  building’s  board  min-  utes—that will inform the new member   on current matters in the building, house   rules, and bylaws. Before attending their   ceive an agenda, a management report,   fore the meeting, so they’re able to ask in-  perspectives based on the facts.”   Wollman also stresses that confidenti-  to respect the confidentiality of financial   documents submitted by purchasers, or   any other shareholders and unit own-  ers, as well as any other matters that may   Smaller Properties  Not all communities have the where-  members. Smaller associations and cor-  porations may have to call upon existing   Anne S. is the president of a 56-unit   co-op in Upper   Manhattan.  She  has served on the   board  for  about  a   decade. The tight-  knit  community  has a live-in super   and a managing   agent, but in an ef-  fort  to  keep  costs   down, they don’t   have the manager   conduct a formal   orientation  for  new members. In-  stead, Anne herself   orients newcomers   on the building’s   derstanding of how co-ops are run.   “I  usually have  a  long  conversation   on the board, and the requirements to   tives & Condominiums—“workshop for   tend\\\] this year because it will be done vir-  tually. I find that this helps to orient the   cial health of the co-op over time. New   as well, to learn about how it all works.   WHAT NEW BOARD...  continued from page 1  continued on page 7   “Honestly, I was out   of my depth for the   first year. ... I found   it took me a year   of just listening to   understand what was   going on.”                   —Anne S.


































































































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