Q&A: 80/20 Rule

Q I am the current board president of a 48-unit Housing Development Fund Corporation (HDFC) co-op located in Manhattan. Recently, in an effort to bolster operating income, without increasing maintenance assessments, previous boards had decided not to sell 6 vacant co-op-owned studio apartments in our building.

Now the board rents them for about $1,000 per month. Additionally, we rented a co-op-owned one bedroom for about $1,220 per month. As other units became vacant, the push was to rent these as well. Total income runs about $296,000 annually.

At our annual shareholders meeting, the 80/20 rule was brought up. The debate centered on whether the rule was triggered by “income” or “occupancy.” What is “good income” vs. “bad income?” And finally, if it is income, then are Housing Development Fund Corporations, so-called “low to moderate” income HDFC’s exempt from the rule?

—HDFC Board President

A According to Greg Carlson, the executive director of the Federation of New York Housing Cooperatives (FNYHC), a certified property manager, and owner of Carlson Realty, Inc. in Forest Hills, Queens, “the 80/20 rule applies to the cooperative corporation’s ability to allow its shareholders to deduct the proportionate share of the building’s underlying mortgage interest and real estate taxes from their personal income taxes. The 80/20 rule is found in Section 216 of the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) tax code.

“The 80/20 rule requires that no less than 80 percent of the cooperator’s income (“good income”) must derive directly from shareholders of the cooperative (maintenance income). In contrast, no more than 20 percent of the cooperative’s income (“bad income”) is derived from non-shareholders (commercial rents obtained from stores or professional units owned by the cooperative). If a cooperative collects more than 20 percent of this “bad income,” the cooperative loses its right to pass onto its shareholders the proportionate share of the building’s underlying mortgage interest and real estate taxes.

“The writer indicates that they may be approaching this threshold by renting out the cooperative’s apartments. Clearly, the income derived by the corporation by leasing units to a rental resident is categorized as “bad income.” I would advise the writer to consult with the cooperative’s accountant and attorney. Some cooperatives that have received rental apartments as a result of sponsor defaults have found a way around the problem (e.g. forming a different corporation for the rentals).

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3 Comments

  • looking for either 80/20 or affordable housing. looking for something February-May 2017 very flexible quiet, no pets and extremely responsible thank you,
  • Actually, the question is moot. Unlike "regular" co-ops, HDFC co-op shareholders are not permitted to deduct mortgage interest or real estate taxes of the building (though they can deduct interest from their own individual mortgage, if the shareholder has one). So it really does not matter what is the source of the income (good or bad). Either way, the shareholder cannot deduct the pass through interest and taxes. It is a quirk of the HDFC set-up in NYC.
  • i have been looking for the rule or law pertaining to the comment below. can you tell me where i could find. it doesn't make sense to me. thanks. Unlike "regular" co-ops, HDFC co-op shareholders are not permitted to deduct mortgage interest or real estate taxes of the building (though they can deduct interest from their own individual mortgage, if the shareholder has one). So it really does not matter what is the source of the income (good or bad). Either way, the shareholder cannot deduct the pass through interest and taxes. It is a quirk of the HDFC set-up in NYC.