Them's the Rules Enforcing Bylaws and House Rules

The house rules outline the do’s and don’ts of every co-op and condo community. By and large, these regulations are common sense directives aimed at protecting the safety of residents and generally keeping order without stepping on peoples’ toes. Few would argue with most house rules; ones that keep residents from setting up skateboarding tournaments in the lobby, for example, or testing the limits of high-end stereo equipment at three o’clock in the morning generally enjoy widespread support.

Occasionally however, a board will overstep its bounds and try to implement rules of dubious necessity or legality. Often this is done with the best of intentions—perhaps attempting to subdue the annoying tendencies of one renegade unit owner, or overzealously guarding the health of shareholders against imagined hazards. Well-intentioned or not, such actions can lead to frustrating enforcement problems or even unwanted legal entanglements.

Making the Rules

Even in brand new buildings, house rules for condos and co-ops don’t just suddenly appear out of thin air. The sponsor of a new co-op or condo—typically the developer—includes a basic set of bylaws and rules in the initial offering plan, which can then be amended (or not) when the units are filled and a board is elected.

If board members find it necessary to make a rule that goes beyond what their bylaws allow, they’ll first have to amend the bylaws. In the case of co-ops, this requires the participation of shareholders. “Co-ops almost always require a super majority of two-thirds to three-fourths of all outstanding shares in order to pass an amendment to the bylaws,” says Bruce Cholst, a partner at Rosen & Livingston, a New York law firm specializing in cooperative and condominium law.

According to Cholst, who gives a lecture on rulemaking at the annual conference for the Council of New York Cooperatives and Condominiums (CNYC), obtaining the assent of shareholders is often easier said than done. “In my experience, typical turnout at shareholder meetings is 60 percent—and some people say it’s less,” he says. “So even if an amendment requires two-thirds majority, it still loses.”

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21 Comments

  • I brought the apt for 2 years but only moved in for 2 mos. The hot water tank broke, the super said I have to responsible for it. I call the management which is a new one for this building and he didn't know too much about the rules and he took the words from the super and ask me to pay for it. I didn't think its fair because the lease written down that the leasor (building company) will responsible to maintain to building, equipment and the roof, beside that the water tank is outside of my apt, it's not for me to maintain. My question is: if the management co. & the super insisted then what should I go for help legally without too much trouble. Since I am new here I don't know any of the board memeber. My email address is monica_chien69@yahoo.com
  • where can i find a document to proof to my board that carpet rule must apply to all tenant!
  • A mobil home condominium that is a 55 plus and no annual rentals. We have one particular person who has rented to a 41 year old, a girl friend and an elementary school age child. The "man" of the house was removed this week due to domestic violence and was previously told as well as the legal owner of the unit to vacate based on the obvious violations of the rules and has not done so. The attorneys have written letters to both and still no action.....what is our recourse here. thank you dc....in naples
  • What if Board members (president) do not enforce rules and regulations; specifically one that is underlined?
  • My parents left me a co-op in Southern Queens near Howard Beach. I have been trying to sell it for almost 3 years and finally had to come down $50k to get a buyer. The co op is run by thugs or "as we say in Florida, co-op Nazis. They apprently believe our price is too low and would lower the value of the overall co-op. I just lost the buyer because they did not even give him an interview. What do you suggest? Should I just give it away to Goodwill; can I write it off my taxes. The president of the co op board is one nasty wanker. I do not want and cannot afford an attorney since they are, for the most part, thieves. Why are co-ops permitted to have different rules- why are they not subject to the same uniform rules- categorically. I personally, think co-ops suck and now that I see they are easily hi-jacked by Nazis, I recommend that they be outlawed. Give me some advice. Thanks, pal.
  • Mr. Shaw, whether we are condo or coop owners, I too have a Condo Nazi President that selectively enforces our Bylaws, while blatantly fining some for infractions while looking the other way with others who don't give her theri proxy. What owners such as us should do is hound our legislators to enact laws making Board Members financially liable for this nonsense, as well as create an "oversight" Board (like realtors have) that investigate the condo-Nazi's and deliberate discriminatory practices. Our Pres. in GA collects PROXY's 2 months in advance of a meeting, placing her own Board choices in place. She's a horror, and with an apathetic, ignorant community, she gets away with it. How dos one counteract THAT? Other than petitions to remove Board members, or a Board over-throw, there is little you or I can do. The corrupt never get taken to task and our right to the peaceful enjoyment of our homes is shattered. Respond if you want to start a "movement"........I'll do what ever it takes !
  • I'm scared to rent a condo for the following reasons A an owner is the renters landlord essentially normal wear and tear should include clogged drains unless people are bald Over time anyone with hair will occasionally clog a drain Obvious abuse however a renter should pay for As far as noise etc etc. Why can't neighbors just tell a "renter" they are too loud or w ever and with me anyways that's all it would take
  • I was given an indoor parking space last year June. Now over a year later, someone new has taken over the parking responsibilities. I was just informed that in September of the previous year, a rule was put in place that no more vehicles of my type (a small mini van) would be allowed. It is now August. For over a year that I have been parking there with no incidents or complaints. I am parked with one side up against a wall! But though there are other mini vans much larger than mine apparently moved in before the rule change maybe, I was told I needed to vacate the space. I had an outdoor spot that I was basically satisfied with except for birds and snow storms. Was told by the Board Parking Director about the inside spot, took it, and now over a year later am told to move out because I was not aware of this rule change in the contract. The new person enforcing this is known for being miserable. was
  • Can the board enforce no visitor parking after 11pm
  • Am I allowed to have a house-sitter in a co-op where the by-laws state "the member shall occupy the dwelling unit covered by this agreement as a private dwelling for himself and his immediate family, and for no other purposes?" Does this mean I can never have room-mates or guests? Also, since I am a female, and the bylaws only refer to a male, can I ignore it (lol, I know it's a stretch, but you never know)?
  • A coop member stored items in a storage bin that belongs to someone else. Now the unit has been bought and the storage unit goes with the unit. The property is going to be thrown away, is this legal. Do the board have the right to automatically dispose of someone's property? I really do not think so, I would like your opinion - Thanks
  • Our co-op by laws state no pets are allowed. I have seen that one resident has an indoor cat. I intend to question why this rule isn't enforced or propose the rule be changed to allow indoor cats or a small dog, as I am an animal lover & would like to have a pet. Any suggestions?
  • For Michele Lee: Normal Wear & tear usually refers to carpet, walls, windows, appliances, etc. Leave the dwelling as you would when you moved in. Put a screen-type grain trap in the tub/sinks to prevent hair clogging drains. Cost? UNDER $3.DONT pour grease down a drain-EVER! Take pan outside & while hot, in a liquid state, pour grease in obscure area. Disposal: scrape plate into garbage & then use disposal (which doesn't EAT food) & then wash plate. Ask any plumber: Common sense and simple courtesy shouldn't "scare" anyone. L.
  • hi, i have a question: does the coop control a roof of the garage (my window overlooks it and i can get out on it through my window) or can i use it as a garden? it isn't a fire escape, because it leads to stairs and a door that is always locked. tia
  • my daughter vomit in the lobby she was too sick to make it to my unit i was given eviction notice by the co-op am i able to fight this eviction
  • Our condo docs state that satellite dishes must be set up on your patio only. I bought 7 years ago and the only place to receive reception was just outside bedroom window (common property). Dish has Ben in place for seven years. After all this Board is requesting that it be moved to the patio (where I cannot get reception). This rule has not been enforced up to this time. Can the Board make me move the location of the dish. Am in state of georgia
  • I am in a co-op in Yonkers and the resident below me renovated her apt. to open-kitchen with living and dining area one huge room. She has harassed me about noise since I arrived here and I have told her the reason she hears my every move is she has opened her room causing reverberation. Our ceilings are thin to begin with but my every move in my kitchen reverberates because she has no buffer (walls) to insulate the sound. Have you hear this before and what can I do to prove it?
  • Is there a law in Wash dc that a tenant higher than the first floor should have 80% of the floors covered with carpeting and at least 1 inch of padding?
  • I live in a Condo. Our Board was nice enough to install small speakers in the lobby and we now have soft music from a radio source. However, at a Board meeting last night, the Board was informed that we could not do that because we were in some sort of violation and that we had to pay for the use of the radio station for our common lobby. Is this correct?? I cannot find any law about this. We do like our music in the lobby.
  • WethePeopleofCoralPoint on Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:05 PM
    The condo nazi phenomenon is unfortunately widespread in Florida and it is spoiling the life of thousands of people. We invite you to visit us at wethepeopleofcoralpoint.blogspot.com for an example of condo management and Board going crazy and loosing all common sense. But we are fighting back and welcoming your support and comments. Note that we are including a link to this webpage on our Links page for reciprocity. Thanks in advance.
  • i questioned the authority of my lake association As to why they were lowering the lake during a drought the D E P released my name to the lake association president who is also the Deputy mayor of Ringwood nj and is now in a full abuse of power mode and trying to Devaluate my property and enforcing laws on me while allowing others the same ....i do not know how to fight this Vendetta...........PLEASE SOMEONE HELP...............